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Re: WG Review: Recharter of Hypertext Transfer Protocol Bis (httpbis)

From: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:19:28 +0000
Message-ID: <4F441870.8010206@cs.tcd.ie>
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
CC: mnot@mnot.net, IETF-Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>, iesg@ietf.org, ietf-http-wg@w3.org

Hi Julian,

On 02/21/2012 06:50 PM, Julian Reschke wrote:
> On 2012-02-21 19:37, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>> ...
>>> I believe this should be orthogonal to HTTP/2.0. Is there a specific
>>> thing that makes it impossible to use the existing authentication
>>> framework?
>>
>> Who knows? We don't have a protocol on the table yet. I
>> would imagine that some level of backwards compatibility
>> would be a requirement of course, or at least an issue to
>> be considered.
>>
>> But the existing HTTP client authentication is also not
>> necessarily very useful, and there have been a number of
>> efforts to improve on that, none of which seem to have
>> gotten sufficient traction to get widely deployed/used.
>> Maybe HTTP/2.0 is a good time to try fix that.
>
> Well, we have an existing authentication framework. It would be
> interesting to find out what's missing from it.

Fair point.

I would wonder whether that framework could be used
as-is if HTTP/2.0 does do away "with the of HTTP/1.x
message framing and syntax" but I guess some equivalent
functionality could be defined in that case.

So as in my initial mail the 1st question here is, what
does "modern" mean in this draft charter? E.g. does it
mean "same as the current framework with different
bits" or something else? If so, what?

And then should it include adding some new options
or MTI auth schemes as part of HTTP/2.0 or even looking
at that? (I think it ought to include trying for that
personally, even if there is a higher-than-usual risk
of failure.)

S
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