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Re[2]: multiplexing -- don't do it

From: Adrien W. de Croy <adrien@qbik.com>
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 23:11:07 +0000
To: "Robert Collins" <robertc@squid-cache.org>, William Chan (陈智昌) <willchan@chromium.org>
Cc: "Roberto Peon" <grmocg@gmail.com>, "Mike Belshe" <mike@belshe.com>, "Amos Jeffries" <squid3@treenet.co.nz>, "ietf-http-wg@w3.org" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Collins" <robertc@squid-cache.org>
To: "William Chan (陈智昌)" <willchan@chromium.org>
Cc: "Adrien W. de Croy" <adrien@qbik.com>;"Roberto Peon" 
<grmocg@gmail.com>;"Mike Belshe" <mike@belshe.com>;"Amos Jeffries" 
<squid3@treenet.co.nz>;"ietf-http-wg@w3.org" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
Sent: 3/04/2012 11:04:08 a.m.
Subject: Re: multiplexing -- don't do it
>On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:38 AM, William Chan (陈智昌)
><willchan@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>Hypothetically speaking, if HTTP/2.0 were TLS only, then either vendors
>>would have to move to explicit proxies or to SSL MITM...
>>
>
>
>You say 'move to', but the reality has been for years that vendors
>*have* SSL MITM up and running. Hell, a CA was busted a month or so
>back for issuing wildcard certs (top level wildcard no less!) to
>organisations that wanted to MITM all their traffic... nevermind that
>they could then issue a cert for *any* domain which would be in
>default browsers cert list...
>
>SSL MITM isn't something we need to work hard to *avoid*, its
>something we have to deal with today.
>
>The best we can do is setup an environment where there is less or even
>no need for SSL MITM, where folk that are doing SSL MITM today can
>migrate to something a little less toxic tomorrow.
>
>
  
  
completely agree.  
  
MITM is a PITA for vendors, you have to ship your signing cert, and 
real-time generate spoofed signed certs to fool the browsers.
  
So providing explicit support would make life a fair bit easier.  I'm 
pretty sure everyone who wrote MITM was holding their nose at the time.
  
Adrien
  
  
>
>-Rob
>
>
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