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Re: User confirmation and 307 redirects [#238]

From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:15:09 +1000
Cc: httpbis <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Message-Id: <2AF4C271-AEB0-44E6-B770-34F0C9472116@mnot.net>
To: Adam Barth <ietf@adambarth.com>
Thanks for reminding us of this, Adam. When you brought it up in Maastricht, we created:
  http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/httpbis/trac/ticket/238

Cheers,


On 19/08/2010, at 7:27 AM, Adam Barth wrote:

> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-p2-semantics-11#section-8.3.8 says
> 
> [[
>   If the 307 status code is received in response to a request method
>   that is known to be "safe", as defined in Section 7.1.1, then the
>   request MAY be automatically redirected by the user agent without
>   confirmation.  Otherwise, the user agent MUST NOT automatically
>   redirect the request unless it can be confirmed by the user, since
>   this might change the conditions under which the request was issued.
> ]]
> 
> As has been pointed out by multiple folks on multiple occasions, this
> requirement should be removed for the following reasons:
> 
> 1) HTTP ought not to impose constraints on the user agent's user
> interface.  This requirement is not appropriate for all user agents,
> for example a GPS navigation unit in a car.
> 2) This requirement does not reflect reality.  A number of widely used
> user agents disregard this requirement.
> 3) This requirement is actively harmful to interoperability.  Web
> sites cannot reliably use 307 redirects because it triggers awful UI
> mandated by this requirement in some user agents.
> 
> The only counter rationale I've seen on this list is that the
> requirement is actually meaningless under a theory of
> "pre-confirmation."  If the requirement is meaningless, that means we
> should remove it as well.
> 
> Kindly remove the requirement.
> 
> Adam
> 


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