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Re: New Standards

From: Daniel W. Connolly <connolly@beach.w3.org>
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 21:52:40 -0500
Message-Id: <199511090252.VAA08495@beach.w3.org>
To: Joseph Arceneaux <jla@samsara.com>
Cc: http-wg%cuckoo.hpl.hp.com@hplb.hpl.hp.com
In message <m0tDHyv-000A4WC@emptiness.samsara.com>, Joseph Arceneaux writes:
>Recently however, I noticed there was some confusion about which
>organization to address for standards, so pointers would be
>appreciated.

Hmmm... you're not the first person to ask this. The info must be
a little hard to find. I'll update the HTML page to answer it:

http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/MarkUp/#discussion

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>We have a new standard for extending HTML to include programming;  we
>are calling our language Meta-HTML.  Our documents get run through an
>interpreter where HTML comes out like it went in and Meta-HTML gets
>executed and the results substituted inline.

Standards are needed when large groups of folks need to agree on
things; e.g. the HTTP standard is necessary because every web browser
and server have to agree.

An agreement about a server-side processing technique is between the
implementor/vendor, and the user/customer. So I'd agree that you need
documentation/specification which might benefit from wide review, but
I don't think you need a standard -- unless you expect to have lots
of vendors producing products that need to agree on Meta-HTML (as is
the case with CGI). And even then, it's not clear that this is in
the scope of the charters of HTTP-WG nor HTML-WG.

Note the Reply-To: www-html@w3.org.

Dan
Received on Wednesday, 8 November 1995 18:56:23 EST

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