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Re: State Wars, part XI (was: Revised Charter)

From: Anselm Baird_smith <Anselm.Baird_Smith@inria.fr>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:25:18 +0100
Message-Id: <199511071825.TAA02263@houdon.inria.fr>
To: Brian Behlendorf <brian@organic.com>
Cc: Koen Holtman <koen@win.tue.nl>, "M. Hedlund" <hedlund@best.com>, montulli@mozilla.com, http-wg%cuckoo.hpl.hp.com@hplb.hpl.hp.com

Brian Behlendorf writes:
 > On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Koen Holtman wrote:
 > > M. Hedlund:
 > > >[Lou Montulli:]
 > > >>In fact, [Dave's proposal] reduces the capibilities such that it is nearly
 > > >>unusable for large scale applications such as online shopping.
 > > >
 > > >I disagree (as a programmer for an online shopping site).  I do agree that
 > > >an extremely large online shopping site with many stores or large ordering
 > > >possibilities might hit an upper limit with the state-info proposal if they
 > > >tried to store all ordering info in the State-info: header.  This concern,
 > > >however, is not pressing for the vast majority of ordering systems, which
 > > >accumulate a small number of items in each session.
 > > 
 > > I agree.
 > 
 > Besides, hopefully this "extremely large shopping site" will be sufficiently
 > funded and motivated to build a shopping cart Java applet which will store
 > everything in a client-side database so none of this information needs to get
 > transmitted over the wire more than twice (once at browse-time, once at
 > order-time) and there's no limit to what can go in your shopping cart.  Oh,
 > the Java applet API doesn't have persistant object support - oops!  Big
 > mistake there.  Hopefully the API v2 will fix that... 

This doesn't seem to be a blocking problem. I have experienced this
solution with 1alpha3 API, and it seems doable, although the stuff
you'll find at ftp://koala.inria.fr/pub/abs/java/sb.tgz works just
enough to say this ;-) 

BTW: the nicest thing about this scheme is that you don't need any
more proxy-defeating stuff in implementing shopping basket.

Anselm.
Received on Tuesday, 7 November 1995 10:34:29 EST

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