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RE: Revised Charter

From: M. Hedlund <hedlund@best.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:40:19 -0700
Message-Id: <v02120d01acbd86e5e474@[]>
To: Beth Frank <efrank@ncsa.uiuc.edu>, http-wg%cuckoo.hpl.hp.com@hplb.hpl.hp.com
At 2:06 PM 11/1/95, Beth Frank wrote (quoting Shel):
>> The list looks pretty good to me, but I'd also like to see the following
>> on it:
>> - state management  (for example, the state-info proposal by Dave Kristol)
><Rest of Shel's message cut>
>I'd like to second the addition of state management.  Our initial development
>plans for sessions (or state) included support of Netscape's cookie, however
>I've been informed by someone who watches www-talk much more closely than I do,
>that there is some debate over whether the Netscape implementation is the way
>it should be handled.

I certainly agree that state-info should be in there, and I _very_ strongly
agree that Dave Kristol's proposal is a far superior implementation to
cookies.  Most of my complaints with the cookie proposal have to do with
privacy, which has been discussed at length on www-talk.  A number of
cookie implementations have had serious privacy problems; and I have yet to
see an implementation that gives the user any clue as to what the hell it's

Since Dave's proposal makes very reasonable efforts to reduce no-caching,
and since the whole proposal makes session-munged URLs unnecessary, this
issue falls well within the scope of Shel's closing statement:

>I also think this group shouldn't do one more single thing until
>all issues related to caching are completely nailed down.

[Back to Beth:]
>If the group can come to some agreement on how sessions and states should be
>handled, we'll implement it (on the server side) early '96.

That would be great.  Any server supporting CGI can be made to use
State-info through scripts, so if clients start recognizing it, the rest of
the implementation can be done pretty quickly.

M. Hedlund <hedlund@best.com>
Received on Wednesday, 1 November 1995 13:42:04 UTC

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