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Re: Negotiation in draft 01

From: Martijn Koster <mak@victor.nexor.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 08:58:25 BST
Message-Id: <199508090759.AA180325199@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
To: Rich Salz <rsalz@osf.org>
Cc: fielding@beach.w3.org, http-wg%cuckoo.hpl.hp.com@hplb.hpl.hp.com
In message <9508090308.AA04559@sulphur.osf.org>, Rich Salz writes:
in reply to Roy Fielding:

> >They were not.  I very rarely design things on the mailing list, preferring
> >instead to work with small groups on particular problems and then presenting
> >the result in the form of a draft.  We spent a great deal of time trying
> >to find the best way to cache responses given the possible presence of
> >content variants.  Not all of the conclusions made it into the draft, but
> >the parsing requirements did.
> This attitude is offensive.  We are not the huddled tribes waiting for
> stone tablets to come down from above.  The members of this mailing list
> are those people who expect to be involved in the definition of the HTTP
> protocol.

And you are. There's a draft, if you want something changed, get it changed
by discussing it in the group.

> At least now I understand why a 500-line detailed commentary on
> v10-spec that I sent to this list at the end of May got no reaction.

I don't, and it's a separate issue.

> This is not the way the IETF works.  At the very least, an apology is
> called for.  More likely, a major procedure reset probably needs to be done
> by the Area Director (e.g., replace the current editor).
> 	/r$

I don't think an apology is called for, neither is your aggresive reaction.

Personally I'm glad Roy has provided a solid basis to discuss, rather than
a lot of talking happening without result (that's what www-talk is for,
right? Joke! Joke, sorry... :-)

I too would like to (have) see(n) a faster turnaround time on the draft,
but that's always easy when you're not the one doing the work :-)

Enough soapbox as far as I'm concerned, now where did I put that draft...

-- Martijn
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