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From: Brian Behlendorf <brian@organic.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 21:53:53 -0700 (PDT)
To: Alexei Kosut <akosut@nueva.pvt.k12.ca.us>
Cc: Alex Hopmann <hopmann@holonet.net>, http-wg%cuckoo.hpl.hp.com@hplb.hpl.hp.com
Message-Id: <Pine.3.89.9507052121.L22334-0100000@eat.organic.com>
On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Alexei Kosut wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> > Won't stop it from being put into Netscape 1.2 of course, with the
> > corresponding "you must be using N1.2 to view these pages!"  messages across
> > the net I'm sure.... 
> Maybe I've misinterpreted this statement but.... cookies are implemented 
> in Netscape 1.1 and 1.1N, right now. Your statement seems to indicate 
> they may be in 1.2, but they're here already.... 

You're right, my mistake.

> Haven't seen any pages 
> that make use of them in a way that excludes non-cookie browsers yet, 
> although there was one thing that a friend of mine used them for that 
> struck me as really neat. He used them to simulate a multi-host server, 
> without using multihoming, a modified IP driver, or waiting for HTTP 1/1. 

[example deleted]

I'd like to be the first to label that solution a glorious H-A-C-K.  True,
not much more of a hack than multihoming based on IP aliasing, but *not* the
most general solution for the problem.  That's my concern with the cookie
proposal in general - it supports the development of server-side hacks and
backflips, and masquerades them as real solutions, slowing down the 
pressure and lengthening development time for the real solutions.  Yes, 
Session-ID's won't completely enable shopping carts - that's not their 

Anyways, most of us here are probably also on www-talk so to avoid saying 
what's been said before, start at 


The thread is long but worthwhile points are made throughout.


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