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Re: don't collapse two spaces at the end of a sentence

From: Gerhard Scholz <gerhard.scholz@epost.de>
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:18:37 +0100
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To: <html-tidy@w3.org>
spaces at the end of a sentence problem: 

why not terminate sentences with dot&nbsp; ?

Example: (I took the message below)


  Personally I always use two spaces at the end of sentences.&nbsp; Yes, it does hark back to the days of manual, fixed-pitch typewriters, but it is the way I was taught and, more importantly, I
  believe it aids legibility.&nbsp; With no disrespect to Diane, compare her brief message below, to Charlie's. 

  <P>

  That the HTML specs require multiple white-space characters to be rendered as a single space certainly cleans up the resultant the layout, especially when there may be extra carriage-returns
  and/or line-feeds in the source, but it does make it more difficult for an author to achieve the desired result.&nbsp; Perhaps we need a more common double-width space character?&nbsp; Meantime,
  I am disappointed to hear that major publications are changing their style to be, IMHO, less legible.</P>

  <P>

  But this is getting a bit off-topic - sorry!&nbsp; As Tidy's whole purpose in life is to legalise documents, I think that it should replace the double spaces.&nbsp; If you disagree with the
  spec, then it is that which should be changed before Tidy.</P>

  <P>

  Just my two penn'th,</P>

  <P>Peter</p>



expands to:


  Personally I always use two spaces at the end of sentences.  Yes, it does hark back to the days of manual, fixed-pitch typewriters, but it is the way I was taught and, more importantly, I believe it aids legibility.  With no disrespect to Diane, compare her brief message below, to Charlie's. 
  That the HTML specs require multiple white-space characters to be rendered as a single space certainly cleans up the resultant the layout, especially when there may be extra carriage-returns and/or line-feeds in the source, but it does make it more difficult for an author to achieve the desired result.  Perhaps we need a more common double-width space character?  Meantime, I am disappointed to hear that major publications are changing their style to be, IMHO, less legible.

  But this is getting a bit off-topic - sorry!  As Tidy's whole purpose in life is to legalise documents, I think that it should replace the double spaces.  If you disagree with the spec, then it is that which should be changed before Tidy.

  Just my two penn'th,

  Peter


I think this is what you wanted.

Greetings

Gerhard

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Betreff: RE: don't collapse two spaces at the end of a sentence


| Personally I always use two spaces at the end of sentences. 
| Yes, it does hark back to the days of manual, fixed-pitch 
| typewriters, but it is the way I was taught and, more importantly, I 
| believe it aids legibility.  With no disrespect to Diane, compare her 
| brief message below, to Charlie's.
| 
| That the HTML specs require multiple white-space characters 
| to be rendered as a single space certainly cleans up the resultant 
| the layout, especially when there may be extra carriage-returns 
| and/or line-feeds in the source, but it does make it more difficult 
| for an author to achieve the desired result.  Perhaps we need a more 
| common double-width space character?  Meantime, I am disappointed to 
| hear that major publications are changing their style to be, IMHO, 
| less legible.
| 
| But this is getting a bit off-topic - sorry!  As Tidy's whole 
| purpose in life is to legalise documents, I think that it should 
| replace the double spaces.  If you disagree with the spec, then it is 
| that which should be changed before Tidy.
| 
| Just my two penn'th,
| 
| Peter
| 
| 
| At 13:28 -0500 11/12/01, Reitzel, Charlie wrote:
| >That is good to know.  Thanks.  It makes a lot of sense in the modern,
| >kerned and variable pitch font world.  The double space thing is really a
| >holdover from fixed-pitch fonts, going back, I'd wager, to the typewriter.
| >
| >-----Original Message-----
| >From: welch@units.ohio-state.edu [mailto:welch@units.ohio-state.edu]
| >Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:58 PM
| >To: Reitzel, Charlie
| >Subject: RE: don't collapse two spaces at the end of a sentence
| >
| >FWIW, I started out as a layout editor (Quark) for a journal that adhered
| >strictly to the Chicago Manual of Style. We used a single space after
| >periods. Journals like Time, Newsweek, The New Yorker, and more all now use
| >a single space after periods. I think that this is a standard that is in the
| >process of changing. I believe the MLA Handbook still requires two spaces
| >after periods, but it's been a while since I checked.
| >
| >Diane Welch
| >========================
| >
| >The HTML specs all require that multiple, adjacent whitespace characters be
| >collapsed into a single space character.  HTML developers everywhere quite
| >reasonably depend on this behavior.
| >
| >take it easy,
| >Charlie
| 
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