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Re: tables?

From: John Littler <linuxmusic@crosswinds.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 15:54:54 +1100 (EST)
Message-ID: <14409.61470.364345.125167@localhost.localdomain>
To: Alexander Biron <biron@ifh.de>
Cc: John Littler <linuxmusic@crosswinds.net>, html-tidy@w3.org
quoting Alexander Biron:
 > Hi John
 > I did not experience any such difficutlties. One commmon problem with
 > nested tables occurs when the author omits the optinoal end tags. If
 > this is not the reason of your problem, please provide the URL of the
 > page tidy has problems with.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "optional end tags" ...
My reading of the w3 stuff (after I validated) suggested that nested tables weren't a
Good Thing and so the output of html tidy was perfectly valid ...
but not useful.
The URL is http://www.crosswinds.net/~linuxmusic/index.html
pay no mind to all the font stuff - dreamweaver did that on one trip
into it and I haven't cleared it up yet
 > > ah, also it picks up <img> tags and
 > > declares no "alt"s have been used when the <img> tag is
 > > used as "background=" in a <td>. That's bogus.
 > Depends on your point of view. The W3C HTML 4.x standards defines alt as
 > being a required attribute for any kind of image. When tidy parses your
 > document, it tries to associate the most appropriate HTML standard to
 > your document and follows that standards requirements. So if tidy parses
 > your document as HTML 4.0, tidy does not care whether that standard is
 > bogus or not, it just follows it. 
Yes, that's fair enough. It's just that most (all?) graphical browsers 
won't display the "alt" so maybe it's not bogus - but it is redundant
in that case.

 > BTW: you can define the standard your document follows with the Doctype
 > declaration at the top of your document.
 Hmm, I tried 4.00 transitional but the validator said I wasn't using
that :(


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